Comments on: Cufón speed test http://bkwld.com/blog/2009/06/cufon-speed-test/ The blog from the staff of BKWLD Sun, 27 Nov 2011 05:12:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: How to Bulletproof @font-face Web Fonts | designspora http://bkwld.com/blog/2009/06/cufon-speed-test/comment-page-1/#comment-25073 How to Bulletproof @font-face Web Fonts | designspora Tue, 25 Oct 2011 19:11:24 +0000 http://bkwld.com/blog/?p=535#comment-25073 [...] The user may have already configured ClearType or other settings to her liking, and she likely expects text in web pages to look the same as text in a word processor or dialog box. (It’s also worth noting that web fonts are faster than Cufón, particularly when you’re working with large amounts of text.) [...] [...] The user may have already configured ClearType or other settings to her liking, and she likely expects text in web pages to look the same as text in a word processor or dialog box. (It’s also worth noting that web fonts are faster than Cufón, particularly when you’re working with large amounts of text.) [...]

]]> By: How to Bulletproof @font-face Web Fonts | kabayview.com http://bkwld.com/blog/2009/06/cufon-speed-test/comment-page-1/#comment-25043 How to Bulletproof @font-face Web Fonts | kabayview.com Tue, 18 Oct 2011 18:03:34 +0000 http://bkwld.com/blog/?p=535#comment-25043 [...] The user may have already configured ClearType or other settings to her liking, and she likely expects text in web pages to look the same as text in a word processor or dialog box. (It’s also worth noting that web fonts are faster than Cufón, particularly when you’re working with large amounts of text.) [...] [...] The user may have already configured ClearType or other settings to her liking, and she likely expects text in web pages to look the same as text in a word processor or dialog box. (It’s also worth noting that web fonts are faster than Cufón, particularly when you’re working with large amounts of text.) [...]

]]> By: wp-coder.net » How to Bulletproof @font-face Web Fonts http://bkwld.com/blog/2009/06/cufon-speed-test/comment-page-1/#comment-24990 wp-coder.net » How to Bulletproof @font-face Web Fonts Tue, 11 Oct 2011 03:03:08 +0000 http://bkwld.com/blog/?p=535#comment-24990 [...] The user may have already configured ClearType or other settings to her liking, and she likely expects text in web pages to look the same as text in a word processor or dialog box. (It’s also worth noting that web fonts are faster than Cufón, particularly when you’re working with large amounts of text.) [...] [...] The user may have already configured ClearType or other settings to her liking, and she likely expects text in web pages to look the same as text in a word processor or dialog box. (It’s also worth noting that web fonts are faster than Cufón, particularly when you’re working with large amounts of text.) [...]

]]> By: How to Bulletproof @font-face Web Fonts | SearchPsd Blog http://bkwld.com/blog/2009/06/cufon-speed-test/comment-page-1/#comment-24987 How to Bulletproof @font-face Web Fonts | SearchPsd Blog Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:53:19 +0000 http://bkwld.com/blog/?p=535#comment-24987 [...] The user may have already configured ClearType or other settings to her liking, and she likely expects text in web pages to look the same as text in a word processor or dialog box. (It’s also worth noting that web fonts are faster than Cufón, particularly when you’re working with large amounts of text.) [...] [...] The user may have already configured ClearType or other settings to her liking, and she likely expects text in web pages to look the same as text in a word processor or dialog box. (It’s also worth noting that web fonts are faster than Cufón, particularly when you’re working with large amounts of text.) [...]

]]> By: How to Bulletproof @font-face Web Fonts http://bkwld.com/blog/2009/06/cufon-speed-test/comment-page-1/#comment-24985 How to Bulletproof @font-face Web Fonts Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:02:26 +0000 http://bkwld.com/blog/?p=535#comment-24985 [...] The user may have already configured ClearType or other settings to her liking, and she likely expects text in web pages to look the same as text in a word processor or dialog box. (It’s also worth noting that web fonts are faster than Cufón, particularly when you’re working with large amounts of text.) [...] [...] The user may have already configured ClearType or other settings to her liking, and she likely expects text in web pages to look the same as text in a word processor or dialog box. (It’s also worth noting that web fonts are faster than Cufón, particularly when you’re working with large amounts of text.) [...]

]]> By: Cufón – Converts fonts to a proprietary format and a rendering engine written in JavaScript « Web Developer http://bkwld.com/blog/2009/06/cufon-speed-test/comment-page-1/#comment-24374 Cufón – Converts fonts to a proprietary format and a rendering engine written in JavaScript « Web Developer Wed, 06 Jul 2011 13:44:40 +0000 http://bkwld.com/blog/?p=535#comment-24374 [...] The renderer is a bit more complicated. It consists of 3 parts – a Core, which provides the API and common functionality, and two rendering engines. One of them renders VML shapes and is used for Internet Explorer (it supports VML from version 5.5), while the other one uses the widely supported HTML5 <canvas> element. Due to the path data already being VML, little work is needed in the VML engine. The canvas engine, however, must convert all paths to the corresponding sets of drawing commands provided by the canvas API. This turned out to be somewhat tricky at first, but a solution was found after two complete rewrites in the form of code generation and caching, resulting in a very fastrenderer. [...] [...] The renderer is a bit more complicated. It consists of 3 parts – a Core, which provides the API and common functionality, and two rendering engines. One of them renders VML shapes and is used for Internet Explorer (it supports VML from version 5.5), while the other one uses the widely supported HTML5 <canvas> element. Due to the path data already being VML, little work is needed in the VML engine. The canvas engine, however, must convert all paths to the corresponding sets of drawing commands provided by the canvas API. This turned out to be somewhat tricky at first, but a solution was found after two complete rewrites in the form of code generation and caching, resulting in a very fastrenderer. [...]

]]> By: David http://bkwld.com/blog/2009/06/cufon-speed-test/comment-page-1/#comment-23113 David Wed, 23 Mar 2011 04:44:05 +0000 http://bkwld.com/blog/?p=535#comment-23113 Awesome! Very helpful. I was thinking that one of these days I wanted to do the very same test, thanks for saving me the time! Obviously it's a lot faster than rendering text in and of itself, but can the difference be measured? I'm more of a developer than designer, so speed and seo tend to matter more. My impression that with enough headings and such, it may not make a difference to the user, but potentially extra strain on the server with tons of users and slight seo with speed. But maybe the margins are negligeable. A. What do you think? B. Can it be measured? THANKS! PS I know I'm going to forget to check back here. Any chance you could make a "subscribe to comments" feature? Awesome. I'll bookmark this though! Cheers! Awesome! Very helpful. I was thinking that one of these days I wanted to do the very same test, thanks for saving me the time!

Obviously it’s a lot faster than rendering text in and of itself, but can the difference be measured? I’m more of a developer than designer, so speed and seo tend to matter more. My impression that with enough headings and such, it may not make a difference to the user, but potentially extra strain on the server with tons of users and slight seo with speed. But maybe the margins are negligeable.
A. What do you think?
B. Can it be measured?

THANKS!

PS I know I’m going to forget to check back here. Any chance you could make a “subscribe to comments” feature? Awesome. I’ll bookmark this though! Cheers!

]]> By: Aadit Shah http://bkwld.com/blog/2009/06/cufon-speed-test/comment-page-1/#comment-22611 Aadit Shah Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:15:39 +0000 http://bkwld.com/blog/?p=535#comment-22611 With faster javascript engines like Carakan, Jaegermonkey, V8, and Chakra rendering is no longer a problem. These are the results I got on Opera 11.00: 10 chars: 3ms 100 chars: 35ms 1,000 chars: 42ms 10,000 chars: 271ms 100,000 chars: 2364ms It's amazing how fast javascript engines have become - especially when comparing the results with the above graph. Opera took nearly half the time Safari did to render the glyphs with no sweat. Nevertheless, with CSS3 and WOFF cufon is probably no longer needed. Great work though! With faster javascript engines like Carakan, Jaegermonkey, V8, and Chakra rendering is no longer a problem. These are the results I got on Opera 11.00:

10 chars: 3ms
100 chars: 35ms
1,000 chars: 42ms
10,000 chars: 271ms
100,000 chars: 2364ms

It’s amazing how fast javascript engines have become – especially when comparing the results with the above graph. Opera took nearly half the time Safari did to render the glyphs with no sweat.

Nevertheless, with CSS3 and WOFF cufon is probably no longer needed. Great work though!

]]> By: cufón – fonts for the people « Wirtuals.pl – PHP, XML, (x)HTML, JavaScript (AJAX), CSS http://bkwld.com/blog/2009/06/cufon-speed-test/comment-page-1/#comment-22552 cufón – fonts for the people « Wirtuals.pl – PHP, XML, (x)HTML, JavaScript (AJAX), CSS Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:22:53 +0000 http://bkwld.com/blog/?p=535#comment-22552 [...] was found after two complete rewrites in the form of code generation and caching, resulting in a very fast [...] [...] was found after two complete rewrites in the form of code generation and caching, resulting in a very fast [...]

]]> By: jesse http://bkwld.com/blog/2009/06/cufon-speed-test/comment-page-1/#comment-20138 jesse Mon, 03 May 2010 05:23:23 +0000 http://bkwld.com/blog/?p=535#comment-20138 FYI. did just run the test-page in opera 10.52 AND it worked quite fine all the way. the whole set took a few seconds to render AND no issues with browser. FYI.
did just run the test-page in opera 10.52 AND it worked quite fine all the way. the whole set took a few seconds to render AND no issues with browser.

]]> By: Robert Reinhard http://bkwld.com/blog/2009/06/cufon-speed-test/comment-page-1/#comment-19390 Robert Reinhard Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:56:40 +0000 http://bkwld.com/blog/?p=535#comment-19390 I think that's such a large character count, I think that's negligible. I think that’s such a large character count, I think that’s negligible.

]]> By: Graham Perrin http://bkwld.com/blog/2009/06/cufon-speed-test/comment-page-1/#comment-19377 Graham Perrin Sun, 21 Mar 2010 06:01:40 +0000 http://bkwld.com/blog/?p=535#comment-19377 Interesting stuff! http://www.wuala.com/grahamperrin/public/2010/03/21/a screen shots 001 and 002 show WebKit nightly (Safari 4.0.5 (6531.22.7, r56207)) and Firefox 3.6 (Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2) Gecko/20100115 Firefox/3.6 GTB6) respectively. In both cases I see what may be a rendering issue part-way through the 100,000 character test. Is this negligible? Or should I seek/report the issue at http://github.com/sorccu/cufon/issues ? Interesting stuff!

http://www.wuala.com/grahamperrin/public/2010/03/21/a screen shots 001 and 002 show WebKit nightly (Safari 4.0.5 (6531.22.7, r56207)) and Firefox 3.6 (Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2) Gecko/20100115 Firefox/3.6 GTB6) respectively.

In both cases I see what may be a rendering issue part-way through the 100,000 character test. Is this negligible? Or should I seek/report the issue at http://github.com/sorccu/cufon/issues ?

]]> By: Cicada | Superposition Kitty http://bkwld.com/blog/2009/06/cufon-speed-test/comment-page-1/#comment-19120 Cicada | Superposition Kitty Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:07:04 +0000 http://bkwld.com/blog/?p=535#comment-19120 [...] Here I’ve chosen to have cufon replace all h1, h2, h3, and p ele­ments. It’s not recom­men­ded to use cufon to replace body text like I’ve done here unless it’s less than 1,000 char­ac­ters. [...] [...] Here I’ve chosen to have cufon replace all h1, h2, h3, and p ele­ments. It’s not recom­men­ded to use cufon to replace body text like I’ve done here unless it’s less than 1,000 char­ac­ters. [...]

]]> By: Sercan Virlan » Blog Archive » Cufon http://bkwld.com/blog/2009/06/cufon-speed-test/comment-page-1/#comment-17650 Sercan Virlan » Blog Archive » Cufon Fri, 25 Dec 2009 12:46:17 +0000 http://bkwld.com/blog/?p=535#comment-17650 [...] sIFR e göre daha hızlıdır, hız testi için tıklayınız. [...] [...] sIFR e göre daha hızlıdır, hız testi için tıklayınız. [...]

]]> By: Mike Croteau http://bkwld.com/blog/2009/06/cufon-speed-test/comment-page-1/#comment-17346 Mike Croteau Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:53:56 +0000 http://bkwld.com/blog/?p=535#comment-17346 Wow, glad I came across this. Now I feel like a noob at advanced UI stuff. I had recently implemented Cufon for not only headings but body text as well. It worked fine if you didnt switch from page to page rather quickly, but as soon as you tried switching pages fast (not allowing it to finishing loading) Firefox 3.5.5 would crash. It worked fine in Chrome, Safari, Opera and believe it or not IE. I posted a comment in the Cufon support group... no one warned me of the danger of trying to use for all copy text. Until now, I was unable to find a way to show someone an example besides my own where firefox crashes. For a while there, I thought I had a problem with my overall implementation. Thanks for this post and enlightening me! Wow, glad I came across this. Now I feel like a noob at advanced UI stuff. I had recently implemented Cufon for not only headings but body text as well. It worked fine if you didnt switch from page to page rather quickly, but as soon as you tried switching pages fast (not allowing it to finishing loading) Firefox 3.5.5 would crash. It worked fine in Chrome, Safari, Opera and believe it or not IE. I posted a comment in the Cufon support group… no one warned me of the danger of trying to use for all copy text. Until now, I was unable to find a way to show someone an example besides my own where firefox crashes. For a while there, I thought I had a problem with my overall implementation. Thanks for this post and enlightening me!

]]> By: Dan Nye http://bkwld.com/blog/2009/06/cufon-speed-test/comment-page-1/#comment-16569 Dan Nye Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:14:32 +0000 http://bkwld.com/blog/?p=535#comment-16569 @Nick: I see this all the time in Fx 3.0.x.x when using Cufon for lots of local development... even with all add-ons disabled. All menu text (and some other text as well) turns into a few underscores / underlines. Interestingly enough, the problem doesn't seem to appear in Fx 3.5.x. @Nick: I see this all the time in Fx 3.0.x.x when using Cufon for lots of local development… even with all add-ons disabled. All menu text (and some other text as well) turns into a few underscores / underlines.

Interestingly enough, the problem doesn’t seem to appear in Fx 3.5.x.

]]> By: Dominic Coballe http://bkwld.com/blog/2009/06/cufon-speed-test/comment-page-1/#comment-16453 Dominic Coballe Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:32:28 +0000 http://bkwld.com/blog/?p=535#comment-16453 Can we all make a pact to never use it for strings of text longer than 10 words. Only for nav, headers. Maybe Confucius quotes, maybe. Can we all make a pact to never use it for strings of text longer than 10 words. Only for nav, headers. Maybe Confucius quotes, maybe.

]]> By: Nick Rodgers http://bkwld.com/blog/2009/06/cufon-speed-test/comment-page-1/#comment-16336 Nick Rodgers Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:02:41 +0000 http://bkwld.com/blog/?p=535#comment-16336 Wow. Your test really ripped up Firefox 3.0.12. I lost all the text on my menus. Wow. Your test really ripped up Firefox 3.0.12. I lost all the text on my menus.

]]> By: lobo_tuerto http://bkwld.com/blog/2009/06/cufon-speed-test/comment-page-1/#comment-16312 lobo_tuerto Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:12:45 +0000 http://bkwld.com/blog/?p=535#comment-16312 How does Opera perform in this test? It would be cool to include it in the tests. How does Opera perform in this test?

It would be cool to include it in the tests.

]]> By: Robert Reinhard http://bkwld.com/blog/2009/06/cufon-speed-test/comment-page-1/#comment-16289 Robert Reinhard Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:06:13 +0000 http://bkwld.com/blog/?p=535#comment-16289 @Woest. It did for me. after a bit. It was white at first but then rendered the text. This is on a Mac. It chilled on the white for a long time though. I don't talk to many people who use Opera, is that your preferred browser? @Woest. It did for me. after a bit. It was white at first but then rendered the text. This is on a Mac. It chilled on the white for a long time though.

I don’t talk to many people who use Opera, is that your preferred browser?

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